tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8381002847466408353.post8033450351164025492..comments2024-03-28T01:12:48.673-07:00Comments on Mastering Media Blog: Metallica "Death Magnetic" - Remixed from stems by "name" mystery producerIan Shepherdhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00924989200562398660noreply@blogger.comBlogger26125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8381002847466408353.post-85644466389097035732014-01-01T20:53:30.877-08:002014-01-01T20:53:30.877-08:00Amiable articles and the blogs really helped me a ...Amiable articles and the blogs really helped me a lot, thanks for the valuable information.<br /><a href="http://www.xblcodegratuit.fr/" rel="nofollow">xbox live gratuit</a>Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8381002847466408353.post-90446018362020747922013-08-07T06:44:23.100-07:002013-08-07T06:44:23.100-07:00Maybe "Death Magnetic" was made bad for ...Maybe "Death Magnetic" was made bad for a purpose?<br />Maybe it was a marketing trick to create hype around the release. to make it controversial? Maybe people who want to hear undistored Metallica's songs will buy a ticket to see them live? Maybe it's a part of a plan?unfahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17825917716384459569noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8381002847466408353.post-14630838441269649532008-10-05T09:30:00.000-07:002008-10-05T09:30:00.000-07:00I think I understand - it's more that this specifi...I think I understand - it's more that this specific re-mastering of the GH3 tracks aren't quite up to snuff rather than the fact that Metallica was involved in the mixing, which makes this mix a little tough to commit to.<BR/><BR/>Thanks for the reply!JXQhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13270656206126555485noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8381002847466408353.post-25329679628777487882008-10-03T11:40:00.000-07:002008-10-03T11:40:00.000-07:00It's just a personal thing, really - I consider a ...It's just a personal thing, really - I consider a recording and mix to be almost as important a part of a new release from my favourite bands as the songs themselves.<BR/><BR/>It's the use of additional reverb that makes the biggest difference to the "mystery" mix, and this is what pulls it too far away from the band's version for my taste. Also it is a bit bas-heavy and too compressed still.<BR/><BR/>As soon as these qualifiers come into play (ie. the alternative mix isn't "perfect") I tend to loose interest in "fan mixes".<BR/><BR/>Of course the exception is where the fan absolutely nails is, as with the Purplechick "Smile" bootleg.<BR/><BR/>Does that help ?<BR/><BR/>Ianianshepherdhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05617388519502081272noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8381002847466408353.post-46312381138264712422008-10-03T04:38:00.000-07:002008-10-03T04:38:00.000-07:00Hello,I have difficulty understanding your point t...Hello,<BR/><BR/>I have difficulty understanding your point that this isn't an "official mix by Metallica", makes it difficult to commit to.<BR/><BR/>What's the difference between pulling the tracks, EQing and compressing them, etc. to get the sound that your ears enjoy best vs. asking Metallica to try and do the same? If anything I would prefer the former, and both are asking the artist to stray from their original intent, as terrible as it may have sounded.JXQhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13270656206126555485noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8381002847466408353.post-31716392875600502942008-09-30T08:59:00.000-07:002008-09-30T08:59:00.000-07:00http://blog.wired.com/music/2008/09/lars-ulrich-re...http://blog.wired.com/music/2008/09/lars-ulrich-res.html?cid=132822819#comment-132822819<BR/><BR/>Lars and the band ARE NOT fixing their broken album.<BR/><BR/>All I can say is... Rick Rubin obviously doesn't care about music and shouldn't be producing albums for ANYONE.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13358933135565198949noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8381002847466408353.post-62127015271089657352008-09-25T23:34:00.000-07:002008-09-25T23:34:00.000-07:00You did? Cool! Unfortunately, I have no surround s...You did? Cool! Unfortunately, I have no surround system to check it out, so I have to enjoy the wonders in stereo land… ;-)<BR/><BR/>I remember seeing the cover of Opeths first album back in the 90s and thinking: »Wow, what a cool cover! I wonder how they are musically?«, but I only discovered their music a few days ago.Blogwarthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06000151716079481720noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8381002847466408353.post-28493067720103436782008-09-25T16:15:00.000-07:002008-09-25T16:15:00.000-07:00We did the authoring for the recent Surround DVD r...We did the authoring for the recent Surround DVD release of "Still Life" by Opeth - incredible, awesome sound...ianshepherdhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05617388519502081272noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8381002847466408353.post-70973149099515924622008-09-25T15:12:00.000-07:002008-09-25T15:12:00.000-07:00Maybe you're right…I hope they will get cutting ed...Maybe you're right…<BR/>I hope they will get cutting edge some time again, although sadly I have not very high hopes for that. They kind of represent the old music business – which they have every right to, but I think the industry changes gradually and we'll have to see if Metallica can keep up or not…<BR/><BR/>In the meantime I listen to the new Opeth CD I discovered when i was frustrated about DM and searched for some other music to enjoy. It is kind of ironic that I turn to a Death Metal band when I thought I was done with new Metal albums. :-)Blogwarthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06000151716079481720noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8381002847466408353.post-4643140185542953752008-09-25T14:42:00.000-07:002008-09-25T14:42:00.000-07:00Sadly, Metallica is no nin. And I love 'em to pie...Sadly, Metallica is no nin. And I love 'em to pieces. But they're just not that cutting edge. Note the whole suing Napster debacle.<BR/><BR/>The most we can hope for is that awareness has been raised and the next record will be better. That's what we got from Rush and Iron Maiden when this happened.Hollow Manhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09693656913812380907noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8381002847466408353.post-29415506411642615532008-09-25T13:46:00.000-07:002008-09-25T13:46:00.000-07:00@hollow man:The GH stems may not be the best possi...@hollow man:<BR/>The GH stems may not be the best possible way, but unless there is nothing other to mix this will be the best solution.<BR/><BR/>And hearing the mystery remix compared to the actual CD it is amazing tha someone can provide better sound quality with just a handful of lossy tracks.<BR/><BR/>But I would prefer a better solution. I think the smartest way for Metallica to get out of this without losing their face would be to provide the fans with the separate tracks to mix for themselves. That would be really fun and I think the fans would appreciate it. They do it anyway with the GH3 stems, so why not make it official and better quality? Didn't NIN do this? I think such a move would be a brilliant idea. Since fans didn't appreciate the sound of St. Anger and DM much, this wouuld be the ultimate way to give the fans an album with good songs but also the possibility to make it sound like they want it to.Blogwarthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06000151716079481720noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8381002847466408353.post-80322414573637462832008-09-25T05:22:00.000-07:002008-09-25T05:22:00.000-07:00I don't know the technical details of either set o...I don't know the technical details of either set of files. Only enough to be fairly sure they're lossy, because both can be fairly quickly downloaded. <BR/><BR/>My understanding is there are 3 separate tracks for GH songs. The guitars share a track, and the drums and vocals share a track, so this is just not the best method for trying to improve upon the GH mix as it currently stands.Hollow Manhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09693656913812380907noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8381002847466408353.post-11631372892357902902008-09-25T02:00:00.000-07:002008-09-25T02:00:00.000-07:00Ok what do you think of the 24/96 PS3 rip? Are the...Ok what do you think of the 24/96 PS3 rip? Are the source files identical to those from the Xbox, or are they lossless 24/96? 936MbUnknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10518492696603755420noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8381002847466408353.post-72944906441861472352008-09-24T20:29:00.000-07:002008-09-24T20:29:00.000-07:00Ugh. Poo. I think I need to sign that petition sev...Ugh. Poo. I think I need to sign that petition several million more times before anyone in the Metallica camp will notice, if they do at all. Shame, because the music itself is the best they've made in years. 5 albums to debut at 1 - impressive. Bigger than U2 and the Beatles lolUnknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10518492696603755420noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8381002847466408353.post-80467404695090303432008-09-24T19:43:00.000-07:002008-09-24T19:43:00.000-07:00The general feeling is that both the Xbox and 360 ...The general feeling is that both the Xbox and 360 files are compressed (1.4 GB is too small an amount for uncompressed separate music tracks). Which is another reason that all of these fan remixes are a bad idea. Because even though many of them may be lower in loudness than the CD, other aspects of quality will keep degrading, depending on the methods used to do the remixes.Hollow Manhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09693656913812380907noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8381002847466408353.post-84976829719409582008-09-24T19:37:00.000-07:002008-09-24T19:37:00.000-07:00Oh ok. Does anyone know if the GH3 source files ar...Oh ok. Does anyone know if the GH3 source files are compressed for sure? Apparently they're a 1.4GB download. It would be nice to know that the files are not lossy to start with.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10518492696603755420noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8381002847466408353.post-29408068123641186522008-09-24T19:32:00.000-07:002008-09-24T19:32:00.000-07:00I have not heard it yet, but I read on the Metalli...I have not heard it yet, but I read on the Metallica forums that someone did a composite of the two GH versions of "S&R". So if you're seeing a 10 minute plus version available, this may be it.Hollow Manhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09693656913812380907noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8381002847466408353.post-34294450776999634322008-09-24T19:27:00.000-07:002008-09-24T19:27:00.000-07:00um ok, so where did the extended version of S&...um ok, so where did the extended version of S&R which clocks in at 10.42 come from? I haven't seen or heard this version anywhere else.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10518492696603755420noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8381002847466408353.post-4936008524854020932008-09-24T17:49:00.000-07:002008-09-24T17:49:00.000-07:00Any "Fidelman" mix floating about is undoutedly a ...Any "Fidelman" mix floating about is undoutedly a scam. The problem with the release of the GH version is that it's far too easy for anyone to take the tracks, EQ them as they seem fit, and release them under whatever name they choose.Hollow Manhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09693656913812380907noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8381002847466408353.post-15725351036650386142008-09-24T17:32:00.000-07:002008-09-24T17:32:00.000-07:00So far the Greg Fidelman mastertape sounds the bes...So far the Greg Fidelman mastertape sounds the best to me, nowhere near as much clipping, Rob's bass is clear, and the volume levels seem right cf. the GH3 rips. What do you think Ian?Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10518492696603755420noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8381002847466408353.post-26896038670171879482008-09-24T07:38:00.000-07:002008-09-24T07:38:00.000-07:00I also heard the Mystery remix today and it is unb...I also heard the Mystery remix today and it is unbelievable how good this can sound compared to the original CD. Still not perfect as you said, but much, much better.<BR/><BR/>But what does that say about the staff who recorded and mixed Death Magnetic? This is sad: if someone puts out a mix lightyears better than what you can actually buy – only from a handful of stems. That does make everyone involved in the original mixing process and approving this mess either deaf or dumb.<BR/><BR/>I support you with demanding an official remix. But hearing what is on the CD, I wouldn't put any trust in the people Metallica put trust in to make this record as good as possible, because they failed in almost every possible way.<BR/><BR/>They didn't even defend themselves (apart from Ted Jensen). If they said: That's what it's supposed to sound like, then I still would think the sound is an intolerable mess but I could be sure not to buy a new Metallica album again.<BR/><BR/>Without any statement I would still hope to get finally a good Metallica record again.Blogwarthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06000151716079481720noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8381002847466408353.post-3883125713660570932008-09-24T04:50:00.000-07:002008-09-24T04:50:00.000-07:00Wouldn't it be great if Metallica would allow it's...Wouldn't it be great if Metallica would allow it's fans to remix (from original tracks) the Death Magnetic (DM) for the (unavoidable?) re-release of DM. <BR/><BR/>The guitar distortion, bass mixing and drums (snare mostly) in DM truly is so crappy that I left the album in the record store when I had a chance to listen to it with good speakers. <BR/><BR/>Also the song writing is promising but fails to deliver for me the final punch.Kimmohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17498209585096884176noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8381002847466408353.post-58805296628527405432008-09-23T08:39:00.000-07:002008-09-23T08:39:00.000-07:00Good stuff here, Ian! Isn't it sad that the retai...Good stuff here, Ian! Isn't it sad that the retail version is so unfavorable that fans are seeking other means to enjoy this album - even trying to re-mix/re-engineer the album themselves? A pity really.<BR/><BR/>By the same token, I agree that it would be a lot of fun to get to play around with mixing the artist's original recordings.<BR/><BR/>Music Radar has also picked up on this: http://www.musicradar.com/news/guitars/mystery-producer-remixes-death-magnetic-174640 .<BR/><BR/>P.S. I like the added punch in this mix. A bit loud and messy at times, but certainly showing some welcomed flavor IMO. This mix rocks rocks my poor little car so hard lol!UncleN00bhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11700097641854216133noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8381002847466408353.post-61676982546691834002008-09-23T07:44:00.000-07:002008-09-23T07:44:00.000-07:00This is the first time I was able to listen to the...This is the first time I was able to listen to the *music* and not be constantly annoyed and sidetracked by the sound. I had already decided that I don't like the songs, I could barley stand to listen to a complete track. Now I think I might actually like this song.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15694673736651164597noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8381002847466408353.post-51859053582249574232008-09-23T06:56:00.000-07:002008-09-23T06:56:00.000-07:00I really agree that the mystery mix is too bass-y....I really agree that the mystery mix is too bass-y. There are also a few artifacts introduced, but since this is not made from the original tracks, I expect some funkiness.<BR/><BR/>The biggest problem is it's way too loud. This is what the main issue is with the original CD and vinyl! So I'm beyond saddened to see this mix put in such high regard by a lot of people. Granted it sounds better in some ways, but I contend that the original CD mix would've sounded just fine (I've always liked the Rubin dryness approach) if it was simply not spiked to 11 in the volume department.Hollow Manhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09693656913812380907noreply@blogger.com